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	<title>Comments on: Is Sun Java Certification all that?</title>
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		<title>By: Sasa</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-368000</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Go after the degree first&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go after the degree first</p>
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		<title>By: Ernesto</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-367792</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For a couple of different reasons I was never able to finish college but I&#039;ve always wanted to program. My question in all this is the following: Will getting Java Certified help me enter the field... or is having a 4 year degree a must and I&#039;ll be wasting my time and money going after the certificate?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a couple of different reasons I was never able to finish college but I&#8217;ve always wanted to program. My question in all this is the following: Will getting Java Certified help me enter the field&#8230; or is having a 4 year degree a must and I&#8217;ll be wasting my time and money going after the certificate?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-366850</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a manager, I feel that certifications demonstrate the basic knowledge you need to program in Java and a desire to be a programmer.  I think they are an asset, but if given a choice between someone with certifications and no experience and someone with no certifications but ample experience, I&#039;d take the latter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think they are very useful to keep yourself up to date on the language and to keep yourself learning.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a manager, I feel that certifications demonstrate the basic knowledge you need to program in Java and a desire to be a programmer.  I think they are an asset, but if given a choice between someone with certifications and no experience and someone with no certifications but ample experience, I&#8217;d take the latter.</p>
<p>I think they are very useful to keep yourself up to date on the language and to keep yourself learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Bindu</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-360646</link>
		<dc:creator>Bindu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In my opinion Sun certification are helpful to freshers to get to the interviewer.But you have to prove your worth at the interview.
One thing which hurt the value of these certification is availability of  so called dumps and people use it everywhere.
So,I  feel if you fail to impress the interviewer he/she will probably think that you got your certification by studying those dumps.
Even if someone get good score without dumps but have no real experience does not gain any real experience from studying for these certifications.
But i believe strongly that studying for certifications does get you some valuable knowledge even if you are having experience in the technology.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion Sun certification are helpful to freshers to get to the interviewer.But you have to prove your worth at the interview.<br />
One thing which hurt the value of these certification is availability of  so called dumps and people use it everywhere.<br />
So,I  feel if you fail to impress the interviewer he/she will probably think that you got your certification by studying those dumps.<br />
Even if someone get good score without dumps but have no real experience does not gain any real experience from studying for these certifications.<br />
But i believe strongly that studying for certifications does get you some valuable knowledge even if you are having experience in the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Vineet</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-360035</link>
		<dc:creator>Vineet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sun certification helps fresh candidates who are just out of their college. This especially true if you are a not a computer graduate. It certainly puts your resumes above those who are not certified. But if you are an experienced java programmer with more than 5 years of experience, then you do not need this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sun certification helps fresh candidates who are just out of their college. This especially true if you are a not a computer graduate. It certainly puts your resumes above those who are not certified. But if you are an experienced java programmer with more than 5 years of experience, then you do not need this.</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-184563</link>
		<dc:creator>Karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi folks. I&#039;m  a Sun Certified java Programmer and a Sun Certified Web component Developer. Both these certifications have not gained me anything in my corporate life in terms of bonus or promotions (Honestly they were a part of my goal sheet). Getting them without going through only dump  or questions papers does certainly increase your knowledge in the field. You do really get to know the intricate details and it does help in programming. But on the flip side, certifications alone does not help. You also have to know open source frameworks like Spring, Hibernate and other frameworks which are used in any web based development. As Bill suggested, getting Certifications alone will lead you to be in your  own little technology backwater...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks. I&#8217;m  a Sun Certified java Programmer and a Sun Certified Web component Developer. Both these certifications have not gained me anything in my corporate life in terms of bonus or promotions (Honestly they were a part of my goal sheet). Getting them without going through only dump  or questions papers does certainly increase your knowledge in the field. You do really get to know the intricate details and it does help in programming. But on the flip side, certifications alone does not help. You also have to know open source frameworks like Spring, Hibernate and other frameworks which are used in any web based development. As Bill suggested, getting Certifications alone will lead you to be in your  own little technology backwater&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Saurabh Chaubey</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-135485</link>
		<dc:creator>Saurabh Chaubey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In My opinion the perception that certifications especially the sun certifications help people to find nice jobs is not totally correct. As getting 
Sun Certifications with a score above 85 % doesn&#039;t only just put a lable on that person but it also helps him gain the knowledge of things (API&#039;s) of
which he didn&#039;t even had any idea so far in his IT career. So if a company picks up a certified guy than it doesn&#039;t  mean that he got through only 
because he was certified but also because he is tested very deeply in his knowledge which he gained while preparing for the certification. 
After giving a few sun java certifications, i feel that the way one implements the solution to a given problem is more optimized and more 
importantly instead of re-writing a  logic  in our own manner, a sun certified professional knows better if that logic has already been implemented by
sun in any of its API&#039;s.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In My opinion the perception that certifications especially the sun certifications help people to find nice jobs is not totally correct. As getting<br />
Sun Certifications with a score above 85 % doesn&#8217;t only just put a lable on that person but it also helps him gain the knowledge of things (API&#8217;s) of<br />
which he didn&#8217;t even had any idea so far in his IT career. So if a company picks up a certified guy than it doesn&#8217;t  mean that he got through only<br />
because he was certified but also because he is tested very deeply in his knowledge which he gained while preparing for the certification.<br />
After giving a few sun java certifications, i feel that the way one implements the solution to a given problem is more optimized and more<br />
importantly instead of re-writing a  logic  in our own manner, a sun certified professional knows better if that logic has already been implemented by<br />
sun in any of its API&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dhruva</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-124752</link>
		<dc:creator>Dhruva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;certifications are very necessary... as one who doesnt get certified can write a program very well.... but that person won&#039;t ever understand or xplain to others how that program behaves...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;getting certified is the main benefit for getting entered in MNC - this certification itself is a prooof of your coding standard....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and any certification = particular standard knowledge...!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MNC companies like TCS, L &amp; T infotech, Wipro always prefer certified programmers and this is the fact.. yeah, small companies hire normal programmers as the payscale of certified programmer is higher - hope you&#039;re getting my point.....!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>certifications are very necessary&#8230; as one who doesnt get certified can write a program very well&#8230;. but that person won&#8217;t ever understand or xplain to others how that program behaves&#8230;</p>
<p>getting certified is the main benefit for getting entered in MNC &#8211; this certification itself is a prooof of your coding standard&#8230;.</p>
<p>and any certification = particular standard knowledge&#8230;!!!</p>
<p>MNC companies like TCS, L &amp; T infotech, Wipro always prefer certified programmers and this is the fact.. yeah, small companies hire normal programmers as the payscale of certified programmer is higher &#8211; hope you&#8217;re getting my point&#8230;..!</p>
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		<title>By: yogesh</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-48009</link>
		<dc:creator>yogesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, these certifications are a way to ascertain your self about being a good java programmer and nothing else 
as these certification programs just check the logical behaviour of the codes and the way in which the JVM would compile these codes. These certifications donot increase your knowledge about java language as a whole.
Thus I would say that if one wants to chage his field of expertise , and of course to be judged better as a programmer, certifications are helpful. 
well, i would like to know about how to prepare for the SCJP exam and how much time is required for the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, these certifications are a way to ascertain your self about being a good java programmer and nothing else<br />
as these certification programs just check the logical behaviour of the codes and the way in which the JVM would compile these codes. These certifications donot increase your knowledge about java language as a whole.<br />
Thus I would say that if one wants to chage his field of expertise , and of course to be judged better as a programmer, certifications are helpful.<br />
well, i would like to know about how to prepare for the SCJP exam and how much time is required for the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Dasika</title>
		<link>http://madbean.com/2003/mb2003-52/comment-page-1/#comment-42766</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Dasika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 14:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A recent study suggests that 25% software  companies in USA were looking for certified candidates. It takes more than a month time to prepare throughly, and get the basics right. If one gets a score of more than 85%  it reflects that he/she knows fundas in that topic well. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my opinion certification is an addon if one is switching a job .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It makes your java knowledge more accurate &amp; gives u an insight on the fundamental behaviour of JVM.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent study suggests that 25% software  companies in USA were looking for certified candidates. It takes more than a month time to prepare throughly, and get the basics right. If one gets a score of more than 85%  it reflects that he/she knows fundas in that topic well. </p>
<p>In my opinion certification is an addon if one is switching a job .</p>
<p>It makes your java knowledge more accurate &amp; gives u an insight on the fundamental behaviour of JVM.</p>
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